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		<title>By: Dramatica fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dramatica fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 02:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think people are confusing three very different definitions here: Main Character (MC), Protagonist and HERO. 

If anyone is familiar with these concepts from the Dramatica Theory, they&#039;ll easily identify Rose as the MC (the &quot;eyes&quot; of the story... flashback or no flashback) and Jack as the Protagonist (&quot;driver&quot; of the story, making things happen). 

If one of them was chosen by J. Cameron as both the &quot;eyes&quot; and the &quot;driver&quot;, then that character would be referred to as the Hero. Matt Damon&#039;s characters in all the Bourne movies and his latest, &quot;The Adjustment Bureau&quot;, fit the bill of a Hero perfectly.

Rose is not the classical Hero because she doesn&#039;t force the key events to happen. Jack does. He actively wins the trip tickets at a poker game, literally jumps onto the ship in the last second (no Jack on board, no love sub-genre, just a plain disaster movie), he talks Rose off the ledge, later invites her into his world on the lower deck where she discovers there are good emotions in life, not just upper-class boredom and once the iceberg hits, he leads the way through the water-filled ship. 

There are scenes, in which Rose makes Decisions (standing up to her mother and reconsidering the marriage to Cal) or takes Actions (jumping back onto the ship as the rescue boat is being lowered) but that is a physical manifestation of her Character Arc. She would not have done that without Jack in her life. This is because in a Love Story (the Titanic sub-genre), the love interest (from Rose&#039;s POV that would be Jack) is also the Impact Character to her Main Character. He is the one who presented her with an alternative POV and caused her to undergo a change. We, in the audience, identified with Rose from the beginning and wanted her to give up marrying into money. The iceberg was just the catalyst for her to make that decision faster. If the Titanic arrived in NY before she had made up her mind to leave Cal, may be she would have sacrificed her love for Jack, to ensure the means for her aging mother... so for the purposes of this blockbuster... good thing the big boat got blasted.

Last thoughts and examples:
1. I disagree - MC doesn&#039;t always drive the story. Protagonists do. MC is just the character that the audience will inhabit for the purpose of each story. 
2. When the writer combines and MC and a Protag - you get a HERO.
3. The Antagonist always embodies the opposing view and actively sabotages the MC or the Hero. There is no splitting of POV and counteractions. Sometimes there are Henchmen involved for some of the counteraction stuff but they only act on the authority of the Antagonist or at least his implied blessing.

Die Hard movies: McLane (Bruce Willis) is a Hero. We experience the action through his POV and he drives all the rescue efforts

Twilight: MC - Bella; Protag - Edward 

Limitless: Eddie Morra (Brad Cooper) - Hero

Nanny McPhee and the Big Bang: the young mother, played by Maggie Gyllenhaal is the MC, while Nanny McPhee (Emma Thompson) is the Protag 

The Tourist: MC - Elize; Protag - Alexander/Frank

The Client: MC - Reggie Love (Susan Sarandon); Protag - Mark Sway (Brad Renfro)

Rainman: Charlie Babbitt (Tom Cruise) - Hero
In most of his movies (all of the Mission Impossible; The Last Samurai... any action movie really), Tom Cruise tends to lean towards Hero-type characters. Not so with Knight and Day: MC - June (Cameron Diaz); Protag - John Milner (Tom Cruise) 

The Silence of the Lambs: Clarice Starling (Jodie Foster) - Hero

Kill Bill: The Bride (Uma Thurman) - Hero

So next time you wonder who&#039;s the MC, just ask yourself, whose eyes do you see the story through? If they also drive key events with their decisions/actions, that makes them not just the MC but also the Hero. Aileen Wuornos (Charlize Theron) is the Hero in Monster because she both narrates her own story and does all the killing and evading. Doesn&#039;t matter that she&#039;s not a likable character, we identify with her and empathize with her pain and regret when she kills her last victim even though she doesn&#039;t want to.  The writer has achieved a perfect blend for the audience of both POV and emotions.

That&#039;s all she wrote...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think people are confusing three very different definitions here: Main Character (MC), Protagonist and HERO. </p>
<p>If anyone is familiar with these concepts from the Dramatica Theory, they&#8217;ll easily identify Rose as the MC (the &#8220;eyes&#8221; of the story&#8230; flashback or no flashback) and Jack as the Protagonist (&#8220;driver&#8221; of the story, making things happen). </p>
<p>If one of them was chosen by J. Cameron as both the &#8220;eyes&#8221; and the &#8220;driver&#8221;, then that character would be referred to as the Hero. Matt Damon&#8217;s characters in all the Bourne movies and his latest, &#8220;The Adjustment Bureau&#8221;, fit the bill of a Hero perfectly.</p>
<p>Rose is not the classical Hero because she doesn&#8217;t force the key events to happen. Jack does. He actively wins the trip tickets at a poker game, literally jumps onto the ship in the last second (no Jack on board, no love sub-genre, just a plain disaster movie), he talks Rose off the ledge, later invites her into his world on the lower deck where she discovers there are good emotions in life, not just upper-class boredom and once the iceberg hits, he leads the way through the water-filled ship. </p>
<p>There are scenes, in which Rose makes Decisions (standing up to her mother and reconsidering the marriage to Cal) or takes Actions (jumping back onto the ship as the rescue boat is being lowered) but that is a physical manifestation of her Character Arc. She would not have done that without Jack in her life. This is because in a Love Story (the Titanic sub-genre), the love interest (from Rose&#8217;s POV that would be Jack) is also the Impact Character to her Main Character. He is the one who presented her with an alternative POV and caused her to undergo a change. We, in the audience, identified with Rose from the beginning and wanted her to give up marrying into money. The iceberg was just the catalyst for her to make that decision faster. If the Titanic arrived in NY before she had made up her mind to leave Cal, may be she would have sacrificed her love for Jack, to ensure the means for her aging mother&#8230; so for the purposes of this blockbuster&#8230; good thing the big boat got blasted.</p>
<p>Last thoughts and examples:<br />
1. I disagree &#8211; MC doesn&#8217;t always drive the story. Protagonists do. MC is just the character that the audience will inhabit for the purpose of each story.<br />
2. When the writer combines and MC and a Protag &#8211; you get a HERO.<br />
3. The Antagonist always embodies the opposing view and actively sabotages the MC or the Hero. There is no splitting of POV and counteractions. Sometimes there are Henchmen involved for some of the counteraction stuff but they only act on the authority of the Antagonist or at least his implied blessing.</p>
<p>Die Hard movies: McLane (Bruce Willis) is a Hero. We experience the action through his POV and he drives all the rescue efforts</p>
<p>Twilight: MC &#8211; Bella; Protag &#8211; Edward </p>
<p>Limitless: Eddie Morra (Brad Cooper) &#8211; Hero</p>
<p>Nanny McPhee and the Big Bang: the young mother, played by Maggie Gyllenhaal is the MC, while Nanny McPhee (Emma Thompson) is the Protag </p>
<p>The Tourist: MC &#8211; Elize; Protag &#8211; Alexander/Frank</p>
<p>The Client: MC &#8211; Reggie Love (Susan Sarandon); Protag &#8211; Mark Sway (Brad Renfro)</p>
<p>Rainman: Charlie Babbitt (Tom Cruise) &#8211; Hero<br />
In most of his movies (all of the Mission Impossible; The Last Samurai&#8230; any action movie really), Tom Cruise tends to lean towards Hero-type characters. Not so with Knight and Day: MC &#8211; June (Cameron Diaz); Protag &#8211; John Milner (Tom Cruise) </p>
<p>The Silence of the Lambs: Clarice Starling (Jodie Foster) &#8211; Hero</p>
<p>Kill Bill: The Bride (Uma Thurman) &#8211; Hero</p>
<p>So next time you wonder who&#8217;s the MC, just ask yourself, whose eyes do you see the story through? If they also drive key events with their decisions/actions, that makes them not just the MC but also the Hero. Aileen Wuornos (Charlize Theron) is the Hero in Monster because she both narrates her own story and does all the killing and evading. Doesn&#8217;t matter that she&#8217;s not a likable character, we identify with her and empathize with her pain and regret when she kills her last victim even though she doesn&#8217;t want to.  The writer has achieved a perfect blend for the audience of both POV and emotions.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s all she wrote&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2011 20:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can compare &quot;Titanic&quot; to &quot;Walkabout&quot;, where the &quot;Rose&quot; MAIN character of the Girl - saved also by a self-sacrifing love interest (the Boy) ends the movie in real time AND with a flashback.</description>
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		<title>By: Dominick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dominick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 01:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

It sounds strange but I think &quot;the titanic&quot; is the main character.
It sounds strange but if we look at it from a theoretical point of view:
 
The good guy vs the bad guy : The titanic vs the icebergs.
The main character who changed the most from the start of the film until the end: Titanic. She started out as the mighty and powerful destroyable ship and at the end she &quot;died&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>It sounds strange but I think &#8220;the titanic&#8221; is the main character.<br />
It sounds strange but if we look at it from a theoretical point of view:</p>
<p>The good guy vs the bad guy : The titanic vs the icebergs.<br />
The main character who changed the most from the start of the film until the end: Titanic. She started out as the mighty and powerful destroyable ship and at the end she &#8220;died&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 19:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Titanic is a disaster movie, but it is also a romantic fairy tale about ROSE breaking free from the family-related curse (her forced marriage).  As such, Rose is the protagonist.  Jack is the ANTAGONIST, the one who causes Rose to change. Cal is the villain, not to be confused with the antagonist.  The decision to break free belongs to Rose.  However, as a romance, Jack is the other romantic lead, and is given a great character arc too, one that helps completes Rose&#039;s journey.   If Jack had lived, she would have followed Jack as she was following Cal, so his sacrificial death allows her to break free from the romantic misconception that she&#039;s only complete with a man.  So, she gets to have her full life, and reunite with Jack at the end.  Great storytelling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Titanic is a disaster movie, but it is also a romantic fairy tale about ROSE breaking free from the family-related curse (her forced marriage).  As such, Rose is the protagonist.  Jack is the ANTAGONIST, the one who causes Rose to change. Cal is the villain, not to be confused with the antagonist.  The decision to break free belongs to Rose.  However, as a romance, Jack is the other romantic lead, and is given a great character arc too, one that helps completes Rose&#8217;s journey.   If Jack had lived, she would have followed Jack as she was following Cal, so his sacrificial death allows her to break free from the romantic misconception that she&#8217;s only complete with a man.  So, she gets to have her full life, and reunite with Jack at the end.  Great storytelling.</p>
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		<title>By: STAR TREK &#124; Contour At The Movies</title>
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		<dc:creator>STAR TREK &#124; Contour At The Movies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 16:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is to see who changes the most from the beginning of the film to the end (check out the article &#8220;Who&#8217;s the Main Character in Titanic.&#8221;)    In STAR TREK, the character who changes the most from FADE IN to FADE OUT is Spock. hand [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is to see who changes the most from the beginning of the film to the end (check out the article &#8220;Who&#8217;s the Main Character in Titanic.&#8221;)    In STAR TREK, the character who changes the most from FADE IN to FADE OUT is Spock. hand [...]</p>
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		<title>By: totallywrite</title>
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		<dc:creator>totallywrite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 01:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elegant answer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elegant answer!</p>
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		<title>By: Zoren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 05:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rose is the main Character in the movie but in her narration jack is the main character. so that makes them both main character in different perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rose is the main Character in the movie but in her narration jack is the main character. so that makes them both main character in different perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: Gil Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gil Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve gone back and forth on this one, too...for years, but there&#039;s really only one answer and that&#039;s that there are two genres being combined in Titanic.  There&#039;s a disaster film aspect, and Rose is the main character there, she saves Jack who&#039;s handcuffed below decks as the ship sinks.  And then there&#039;s the love story, where Jack is the main character, he saves Rose, twice as it turns out.  I think that&#039;s why the film is so tricky from this point of view, it&#039;s a mixed genre...two stories, actually.  Three if you throw in the wrap around modern day story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve gone back and forth on this one, too&#8230;for years, but there&#8217;s really only one answer and that&#8217;s that there are two genres being combined in Titanic.  There&#8217;s a disaster film aspect, and Rose is the main character there, she saves Jack who&#8217;s handcuffed below decks as the ship sinks.  And then there&#8217;s the love story, where Jack is the main character, he saves Rose, twice as it turns out.  I think that&#8217;s why the film is so tricky from this point of view, it&#8217;s a mixed genre&#8230;two stories, actually.  Three if you throw in the wrap around modern day story.</p>
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		<title>By: totallywrite</title>
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		<dc:creator>totallywrite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The present day scenes are really just a framing device for the film.  The movie would probably have done just as well if it was all set in 1912.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The present day scenes are really just a framing device for the film.  The movie would probably have done just as well if it was all set in 1912.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps this may be amiss, but how do we analyze Titanic given that the present-day story deals with the expedition ship and the entire story of Rose and Jack and the Titanic is told in flashback? The only character to show up in both is Rose - (at least in real time, and not by virtue of memory). Additionally, it almost seems as if Titanic flashback story was Rose&#039;s B-Story, or the vehicle which impacts her to do what she does at the end of the film. I think one reason why Titanic has been so powerful a film for me is because the events of both past and present seem to work together somehow to produce the carthasis moment of when Rose, at the film&#039;s end - throws the necklace overboard. Man, that one had me gripping the seat, and the tears were flowing. That, to me, was one of the most powerful moments I can think of in cinema. It&#039;s like everything that led up to that was a vehicle, in some way, to achieve that moment. Of course, I have not really answered the question. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps this may be amiss, but how do we analyze Titanic given that the present-day story deals with the expedition ship and the entire story of Rose and Jack and the Titanic is told in flashback? The only character to show up in both is Rose &#8211; (at least in real time, and not by virtue of memory). Additionally, it almost seems as if Titanic flashback story was Rose&#8217;s B-Story, or the vehicle which impacts her to do what she does at the end of the film. I think one reason why Titanic has been so powerful a film for me is because the events of both past and present seem to work together somehow to produce the carthasis moment of when Rose, at the film&#8217;s end &#8211; throws the necklace overboard. Man, that one had me gripping the seat, and the tears were flowing. That, to me, was one of the most powerful moments I can think of in cinema. It&#8217;s like everything that led up to that was a vehicle, in some way, to achieve that moment. Of course, I have not really answered the question. <img src='http://contour-at-the-movies.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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